[moro mou]

hello - i am new to this forum and this topic may have been covered before however i am after some information on a Miroku "stirling" o/u 12G. More specifically likley age, use ie trap or field and approx purchase price.

Form what i understand this model is not made anymore and i also know that this particular gun is over 25 years old.

Any information would be apprecaited. Thanks.

[Gunna 12G]

Welcome to the forum Moro, sounds like you have an 800 built in the early sixties came in A and D grades trap models. A cost$199.00
D cost $230 at the time we went to decimal currency. The test report is in Australian Outdoors Feb 1966 pg 36. I've seen a few over the years but only the A grade, they're a good reliable gun and have V springs internally .
Cheers Gunna .

[moro mou]

Thanks Gunna,

Must admit i didn't think it would be that old, was thinking maybe late 70's / early 80's built. Anyway still shoots well.

Apprecaite the info.

[Gunna 12G]

The word Stirling is the give away as Miroku dropped it by the seventies . If you can add a picture that would be great. They also made SxS known as miroku Stirlings and latter dropped the stirling to just Miroku or just Browning with the Miroky's being assembled in Korea.
Cheers Gunna.

[moro mou]

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[Gunna 12G]

Back again, the engraving looks like a C grade Browning so it's probably the D grade model.The A grade miroky engraving was different, more basic design. It's definatley a Monte carlo combed trap gun so I'll do some more research and see what I can find .
Cheers Gunna.

[moro mou]

Thanks Gunna - very much appreciated.

[Gunna 12G]

In 1970 Guns yamamoto seisakusho(Miroku) joined in a technology partnership with F.N. In 1981 changed their name to Miroku Kahokucho INC and aquired the shares. This could be when the stirling was dropped as I found adverts for stirling mirokus into the early eighties . The model was a 3800 and this could be the one you have . I cant see your photo engraving clearly enough but see the adverts show engraving which looks like the Browning "C' grade engraving.
Still looking, cheers Gunna.

[bigoak]

Gunna Great Info.

I too have a Stirling Miroku that is very similar, however mine has a grip cap on it.

Do you know if these would be alright to fire steel shot through.

I would be keen to read that old test report if you have it as a PDF.

Cheers

[Heavy Duck]

For the benefit of all us latecomers to the wonderful world of Miroku ... please don't use the names Miroku and Stirling in the same sentence, it conjures up all sorts of dreadful images.

It's a bit like 'don't mention the war'.

[vermin]

Great choice of shotgun! Miroku Stirlings just keep on working. I have two currently, and have had several others. Don't know why I bought more than one as I only use the very first one purchased. I can't even imaging how many shells have gone through it. Steel target load is fine but don't use hunting loads.

[Gunna 12G]

G'day Big oak I have a copy of the scanned article but need your email address to send it , so if you PM me your email address I'll send a copy.
Heavy duck not all Stirlings were cheap knockoff's made in the Phillipines , it seemed to be a generic name used by importers to help sell an otherwise less marketable brand name. Just as Bentley's weren't all cheap nasty Spanish guns.I have a theory as to why the two biggest importers had pet names for their line of imports , but maybe some other time.
cheers Gunna.

[bigoak]

 Gunna 12G, on 18 Sep 2012 - 12:00 AM, said:

G'day Big oak I have a copy of the scanned article but need your email address to send it , so if you PM me your email address I'll send a copy.
Heavy duck not all Stirlings were cheap knockoff's made in the Phillipines , it seemed to be a generic name used by importers to help sell an otherwise less marketable brand name. Just as Bentley's weren't all cheap nasty Spanish guns.I have a theory as to why the two biggest importers had pet names for their line of imports , but maybe some other time.
cheers Gunna.

Gunna thats great. Any idea about the steel shot though.
Its a nice old gun that swings real well.
I bought it when John Howard took my 1907 made Remington Mod 11 from me (the predessor to the Browning A5). I swear it sat above his fireplace. That Shotty was surly collectable.
Truth be told I have enjoyed shooting the Miroku more than the old Auto, but It woulda been nice to have had the freedom to make the decision myself. Anyway enough on that topic.
I fear I havent used it much over the last few years, but I hope to change that in the future.
Id be interested to hear your theory.

[Heavy Duck]

 Gunna 12G, on 18 Sep 2012 - 12:00 AM, said:

G'day Big oak I have a copy of the scanned article but need your email address to send it , so if you PM me your email address I'll send a copy.
Heavy duck not all Stirlings were cheap knockoff's made in the Phillipines , it seemed to be a generic name used by importers to help sell an otherwise less marketable brand name. Just as Bentley's weren't all cheap nasty Spanish guns.I have a theory as to why the two biggest importers had pet names for their line of imports , but maybe some other time.
cheers Gunna.

I'm aware of all that, big fella.

My point was, although somewhat flippantly put ... was that the Stirling name was significantly tainted by that Phillipino shit ( especially that rimfire ammo they had the audacity to ask money for ) - which is a shame because I also like the Miroku Stirling stuff.

I just don't say it too loud.

[Heavy Duck]

 Gunna 12G, on 28 Jul 2011 - 09:53 AM, said:

The word Stirling is the give away as Miroku dropped it by the seventies . If you can add a picture that would be great. They also made SxS known as miroku Stirlings and latter dropped the stirling to just Miroku or just Browning with the Miroky's being assembled in Korea.
Cheers Gunna.

The later Browning BSS guns were assembled in Korea.

Would this be in addition to the Mirokus you speak of ... Or one of the same ? ( but labelled Browning, instead of Miroku as you have suggested )

I need to know Gunna

[James6591]

I have a 9000 G3.
Joy to shoot.
Similiar to this.

[Heavy Duck]

 James6591, on 19 Sep 2012 - 07:33 PM, said:

I have a 9000 G3.
Joy to shoot.

I once had a Miroku 9000 and like a fool, I sold it.

I would pay a handsome amount for a Grade 5 9000, in the 'right condition'.

[sam1955]

Hello All,
I have just been reading about the Miroku Stirling as I also have one and have cracked the stock. I purchased this gun at auction about 35 years ago for $250 and it has served me well in the field. Are stocks for this gun available, and is it worthwhile restocking? Not much blue left on it either, its had a hard life.

[ryanom]

G'day Sam, I priced one up the other day (I think they come thru highland sport) a new stock in grade one to suit the 9000 or mark 10 was going to be about $700

[sam1955]

 ryanom, on 01 Nov 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

G'day Sam, I priced one up the other day (I think they come thru highland sport) a new stock in grade one to suit the 9000 or mark 10 was going to be about $700

[sam1955]

Thank you but that is a bit much for this gun.